@willaware3583
2 days ago (edited)
I still can't believe that people think there was a solver and a finder. That in itself doesn't make sense. If someone solved it, they would know where to find it....
"No place for the meek"......so a shy person wouldn't even be considered. Just another hint to a fraudulent ending to keep his family and originally hidden chest safe.
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@treasurepoem
2 days ago
The solver and finder relate to Forrest Fenn's special spot, which concealed something. If one is afraid of heights, one isn't afraid of everything. If a person is uncomfortable in the public eye, he can still go into a known area where a mother bear and her two cubs were spotted earlier in the day without any bear spray or any kind of protection. I experienced that myself on July 7, 2017. Forrest himself brought up the grizzly bears in the Dateline interview.
@willaware3583
1 day ago
@treasurepoem Then you were in the wrong location. "Don't go anywhere a 79 or 80 year old would go". "Bring you children, a child may have an advantage". "A person in a wheel chair could get there with a little assistance" All you gotta do is LISTEN to get your answers, since the answers "he" already knows, and he gave us them to an extent.
@treasurepoem
1 day ago (edited)
@willaware3583 Well, you have your opinions, which you are entitled to, but then there's Forrest Fenn's public statement announcing and confirming that I am the finder and solver of his special spot. His poem led me to the exact location. Forrest gave me private instructions on the day he made that announcement.
So, a 79 or 80-year-old can't walk because there might be bears in the area? Bear spray alone can protect anyone from a bear.
Yes, the solution I have will allow a person in a wheelchair to get there with a little assistance. It also addresses all of Forrest's comments, including the fact that the solve for the poem will fit on a Post-it. Why didn't I think of that? The clomp of a boot, into the teeth of the Rockies. T.S. Eliot's poem, We shall not cease from exploration. And the end of all our exploring. Will be to arrive where we started. And know the place for the first time. Forrest said that the clues get progressively easier, and he backed up my comment about grammar on Why Must I Not Know's YouTube channel that grammar isn't very important in the poem.
The TC is wet but not underwater; it was left on the ground, and nobody will stumble upon the TC. It was found under a canopy of stars (real stars) in lush vegetation, etc., unlike the Nine Mile Hole solve, which I publicly posted; it was a decent solution until the home of brown, when it all falls apart, and then after I posted that, the Nookers group then ran with it. It also explains why Jack Stuef stated that he actually found it in September of 2019 and left it there, which I did. I've also explained for years why I was the lead searcher/the second 200-footer in 2017. How Forrest knew that I was within 200 feet of his TC (photo) and why I gave him his gut feeling about a searcher maybe finding it in the summer of 2018 and then his wavering feeling, etc., etc., etc., like the King and I guy who I met personally at the Cirque Dinner Theater in Seattle where I was working.
@willaware3583
1 day ago
@treasurepoem Then you should know who the first 200 footer was....and where they were, so who was it and where were they? IF you know where the chest is hidden.... go get it.
I don't have opinions, I always just quote fenn.
You've repeated some of what fenn said but didn't explain how any of it applies. If you believer the chest was found, telling your location shouldn't be a problem.
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@treasurepoem
1 day ago
@willaware3583 It was me, and I was standing within 200 feet of Forrest Fenn's special spot and blaze, which I posted many times online, which I found damaged the next year, and the other blaze nearby wasn't damaged, so I wasted my time on it on 9/11/18.
When Forrest responded on Dal's blog that the treasure chest is still there and hasn't been moved about a month after I emailed him from a McDonald's in West Yellowstone on 9/9/19 that I was done with the treasure hunt because the treasure chest was found already and removed. So, I emailed Forrest that I would return to retrieve it on June 6, 2020, which went along with the dates of my prior searches and war theme, including page 99 of the TTOTC book, which upside down is 66, or June 6. I also said that if I didn't go on June 6, 2020, I would go on June 16, which is my mother's birthday, so I could honor her if I were the finder. If you remember, Forrest made the find announcement on June 6, 2020, and after much demand from searchers, he finally released the treasure chest photos on my mother's birthday, June 16. IMO, Forrest understood the importance of my search dates.
I hope I got all the dates right; my memory isn't as good as it used to be, but I didn't check. I have over a hundred videos on my Treasure Poem YT channel, but they are not searchable right now for the public.
I can't tell you my exact location, but it was where others have been within 500 feet of the treasure chest. I was within 200 feet of the treasure chest because I measured the distance on Google Earth. What I found at or near the blaze was a darkened 10"x10"x5" or 10"x10"x6" object sitting in about an inch of water and a little bit into the bank of the waterway, with lush vegetation growing around and over the top of the object. In the 3D video that I took, it looks like it's a real object when viewed through my Meta Quest 3 headset.
Anyway, I did go back a year or two to my location after it was announced that the treasure chest was found and there was clear evidence that someone else had been there. The only person to whom I've ever shown a better photo of the object/treasure chest/proxy told me that it looks like it's made of wood.
I don't know if there ever was a real treasure chest out in Wyoming or not, but the poem led me to a specific spot, Forrest Fenn's special spot according to his July 22, 2020, public statement.
@willaware3583
1 day ago
@treasurepoem So you have no answers.....
@treasurepoem
1 day ago
@willaware3583 I provided you real and truthful answers, but you're the real finder, yet you did not authorize Forrest on July 22, 2020, to give out more information about the solver and the general location of his special spot. You don't have the treasure chest, nor have you provided your email authorizing Forrest to give out more information to help give searchers some closure. Jack Stuef was the one seen with Forrest and the treasure chest, so why do you think that you are the solver? When this ending is all said and done, I will use your questions and answers, which I have copies of, to show everyone the kind of ridicule, scorn, denial, and ignorance I received from wannabe solvers.
I'm not going to answer anymore of your questions because you just can't comprehend how anyone else could've been the solver except you.
@willaware3583
1 day ago (edited)
@treasurepoem All you have stated is what you've done, not one answer to any clue in the poem. Like fenn said if I told you wwwh you would walk straight to it, if I told you hob, you'd walk straight to it. He told us all four blazes time and time again so you should know them and be able to find them before leaving the house.....so you can go straight to the chest.
Nothing you have presented shows any confirmation of any of these.
@treasurepoem
22 hours ago
@willaware3583 OK. Call me a liar, but I will answer your question because it's reasonable and not offending me. Keeping my solution a secret and trying to use it as the basis of a new treasure hunt is all I can do under my current circumstances. I have no treasure chest or reward for spending about seven months of around-the-clock studying, reading, or listening to the whole book of TTOTC and the poem, and so I will not give away all my hard and tenacious work to those who are undeserving and some who are mean people—the solution, which is ALL THAT I HAVE for 7 months of my life, effort, and money spent on my trips to Wyoming from Raymond, Washington.
No, Forrest only said in the video interview that you are referring to that you could go straight to it (the treasure chest) if you knew the home of Brown. Forrest also said that if you know WWWH, you're halfway there or home. Forrest never specified how many blazes were located at or near his special spot. Dal said in a video interview that there must be a billion blazes. Please provide any evidence that backs up your assertion that Forrest said that there are four blazes near his treasure chest.
The picture that I sent Forrest on June 20, 2017, showed the blaze from Google Earth, which I never saw in person until 9/11/18, which was damaged, and that's when Forrest realized it too. Jack Stuef supports my claim that he publicly acknowledged the damage to the blaze.
Yes, the poem takes one to WWWH and ends up at the blaze, if you have the correct blaze, which you can't know until you have made a BOTG search, and in my case there was another blaze within 1,000 feet of the damaged blaze, which I then ignored during my search on 9/11/18 in Wyoming.
@willaware3583
22 hours ago (edited)
@treasurepoem "A blaze can be a mark on a tree to mark a trail, a fire or flame or a white mark on the face of a cliff or face or a horse".....fenn.
"It's not likely the blaze could be damaged or removed and it's not likely to be feasible to try and should last 100 -1000 years".....fenn.
@treasurepoem
21 hours ago
@willaware3583 Please provide your source regarding the blaze being unlikely to be damaged. Here is what I found: https://mysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-friday-questions-on-the-thrill-of-the-chase-treasure-hunt-the-blaze/
MW Questions with Forrest (May 2014) (Forrest has said) While it’s not impossible to remove the blaze, it isn’t feasible to try, and I am certain it’s still there. Illinoisghost’s blog
The certainty it's still there part I address here in my video, as well as the damage to the blaze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqRnfNf-zjM
And as I said in my previous comment, Jack Stuef stated that the blaze suffered damage. Why would Jack Stuef or anyone tell us that unless it was true?
@treasurepoem
20 hours ago
@willaware3583 I couldn't find your quote about, It's not likely the blaze could be damaged but I found the following:
https://thefinder.medium.com/jack-gets-mail-2-fee45c45ac8b
Jack Stuef's answer to a question about the damage to the blaze:
No, and he was somewhat surprised when I told him it had happened. Yes, all the other clues are recognizable out there at this point the same as when he hid it, but none of them were as susceptible to damage as the blaze was.
@willaware3583
1 hour ago (edited)
@treasurepoem The quotes may not be exact, it's call paraphrasing. But obviously you get the idea.....remove, damage, destroy...same difference, either way....".....I am certain it's still there."
Obviously, men can move mountains. Nature can cause great catastrophies. So, yeah, not impossible....but not likely in this case.
@willaware3583
1 hour ago
@treasurepoem I can't help it if you believe the whole stueff story....obviously if you compare what fenn said to what stueff said there are contridictions.
Remember fenn said he hid the chest first to make sure nobody would stumble upon it then wrote the peom. He could have written the poem first since he knew where he was going to hide it....but he didn't. He took 15 years to write the poem in addition to the time it was hidden before that. So how could a chest supposedly hidden in 2010 and found in 2020 be the originally hidden chest?
@treasurepoem
1 hour ago
@willaware3583 I just looked up the definition for "remove," and in no case did it state "damage" or "destroy." Definition for remove: to move or take (something) away from a place.
@treasurepoem
1 minute ago
@willaware3583 I've never believed that Jack Stuef was the solver or finder of Forrest Fenn's special spot. I mentioned Jack Stuef for a reason as a rebuttal to your earlier question and because most people falsely believe that he's the finder. If one were the finder, they would know Forrest Fenn's special spot, but Jack Stuef said that he didn't know why the place was so special to Forrest.
Yes, some of the things Jack Stuef has said contradicted what Forrest has stated. IMO, Jack Stuef is just a stand in for the real solver and finder of Forrest Fenn's special spot. Forrest Fenn said that his poem led the finder to the PRECISE SPOT (exact location), and Jack Stuef said that he searched the area for 25 days before he supposedly found a chest or THE chest. I guess some people have a problem understanding what Forrest Fenn stated, or in this case, they just don't believe the creator of the treasure poem—that his poem led the finder to the precise spot.
Yes, Forrest always knew where he was going to hide his treasure chest, and he was going to MAKE IT HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT. People should think about that for a moment.
I know Forrest made two trips to hide his treasure and chest and that he hid it first before he wrote the poem and that he stated that he spent 15 years writing the poem. He also stated that it was 15 years after he got cancer, which was in 1988, when he hid his treasure chest, so if you add 15 years to that date, you get 2003. I've brought up the possibility of more than one treasure chest, and as far as I know, I was the first one to post that idea online.
IMO, Jack Stuef's story was the third attempt by a group of people to sell to Netflix an ending to the chase. When I finish with Netflix, I will refer to it as Netfix.
Forrest said that he looked for keywords in his emails from searchers, and one searcher did that and never emailed him again. I sent him some keywords and emailed him only one time and never emailed him again from
poemtreasure.com@gmail.com
.
https://youtu.be/RqRnfNf-zjM?si=dCYKS3Oa0zW8MrQy&t=59
Forrest also said, "But in my opinion, the type of person that's going to find the treasure chest is a type of person that can't keep it quiet",
https://youtu.be/8RzrIu3hMec?si=r49GxA49fk8F30Js&t=649
so this person would've been on the forums. The frenzy of scrapbooks was ONLY to encourage the lead searcher or the searcher that Forrest was trying to reach with his statement on Dal's forum, "My treasure chest... has not been retrieved or moved since I first hid it" (chest/object/proxy).
https://youtu.be/UOR1PQVlglU?si=HkJc1sag8EuIopbQ&t=10
Yes, I agree with you; Forrest wanted the searcher to return on June 6, 2020, as the searcher suggested to Forrest, or on June 16, the searcher's mother's birthday.
https://youtu.be/wgXIqGx801s?si=_li9xDgg7GH9Fyj9&t=79
From my email to Forrest: I'm going to search in June or when I can, depending on any travel restriction, and it will be my last search. To force myself to end any further searches in the future, I'm going to reveal my solution if I don't find it this year. I was thinking of being BOTG on June 16, which is my mother's 82nd birthday, or on June 6. So, Forrest, believing that it was going to be retrieved on June 6, went ahead and prematurely announced that his treasure chest had been found, unaware the searcher had not yet gone. The alternative ending started after the searcher failed to redeem Forrest's public statement. Forrest also intentionally waited until my mother's birthday to finally release the photos of the find.
$1,000 is already in the jackpot